The aim will be to get into our destination in the early afternoon if possible  to ensure we get a hotel room and to do some sightseeing. If we have trouble finding accommodation it's usually easy to find something down the road. At that time of year it's light till  about 7 or 8 pm so this takes the pressure off.

Mostly the route is quite flat with the Neckar Valley being slightly downhill. The Austrians/Swiss/Germans are brilliant at constructing radwegs (cycle-paths) and they are nearly always sealed which lessens the chance of flat tyres.

The locals are always friendly especially to cyclists. Accommodation at that time of year should be easy to get. A lot of farmers/local families who live close to the cycle paths set up "zimmer frei" to increase their income and this combined with hotels and youth hostels make it quite easy to get accommodation.

 It should be a fun trip!!!

SECTION 1 Salzburg to Bodensee       (Back to the Top)
Total Distance: 411 km
Time: 7 to 9 days
 

DETAILS

Salzburg (Tauernradweg)  to Lofer then new Mozart-Radweg (will be opened in May 2003) to Kufstein then Innradweg to Landeck.

From here take the train to Klösterle (due to steep incline -over 1000 meters) Then Radweg Kostertal  to Bludenz.Then Radweg Rheintal to Walgau. From there to Bregenz/Bodensee (photo of Bodensee below)

PHOTOS

Lofer

Kufstein castle

Landeck area

Landeck

Bludenz

Bregenz on Bodensee
 

LINKS
http://www.tauernradweg.at/f_start.htm
 
 
 

SECTION 2  Bodensee to Heidelberg (gradient should be slightly downhill). There is an excellent description of the Neckartalradweg here.
(Back to the Top)
General Description: Neckar Valley Route
                    "There are hardly any climbs on this route, and it's
                    downhill nearly all the way from the source of the River
                    Neckar near Villingen-Schwenningen as far as
                    Heidelberg, where so many people have lost their
                    hearts. This route is perfect for beginners and for
                    families with children". (from http://www.germany-tourism.de/e/biking_route_41_e.html)
 
 

Total Distance : approx 400km ?
Time: 7 to 9 days

(good website at http://www.rgs-singen.de/rk/neckar.htm)

ROUTE
Lake Constance  (Ludwigshafen)
to Tuttlingen ca. 41,0 km. (This section is covered in some detail here note you have to click onto "Alle Radweg" then to  "Connecting cycle track Neckar - Bodensee Tuttlingen to Ludwigshafen: Length: 41 km" under "Connecting Routes". A great map is included).

Some photos of this section in sequence:-

Tuttlingen
 

Then follow  the bike-trail "Donauradweg" to Donaueschingen.

 Follow the
"Brigachtalradweg" to Villingen.

Then a series of towns (Rottweil, Sulz, Horb, Rottenburg, Tubingen, Nurtingen, Esslingen, Ludwigsburg, Marbach, Besigheim, Lauffen, Eberbach,  to Heidelburg).

Some photos of this section in sequence are as follows:-

 
 

Heidelburg

Total distance this section: Villingen to Heidelburg: approx 350 km
Time: 6 or 7 days roughly

SECTION 3 Heidelburg to Strasbourg      (Back to the Top)

Strasbourg

Description:
Rhine Valley Cycle Route (note We would only be using part of this radweg then we would need to jump to the 3 TÄLER Radweg into Kehl then across the Rhine into Strasbourg)
 

Distance: approx 220km
Time: 3 -5 days (with some other cycling around the area, particularly in the wine areas)

Trip can either end here or many other options eg further cycling in France including around the Strassbourg area, cycle back to Basel in Switzerland via the Black Forrest etc etc.

Good link Bob Parry's France 2001 - A Bike Tour through Alsace and
Franche-Comté
 

The End.......till the next revision......

APPENDIX 1 - MAPS
(Back to the Top)
1. Tauern Radweg

2. Swiss Youth Hostels

3. Map of Baden/Wurtemberg Youth Hostels at
http://web01.jugendherberge.de/asp/lvbkarte.asp?ID=1
with loads of detail and ability to book online.

4. Neckar Valley Radweg

5. Radwegs Baden-Wurttemberg (also note Rhinetal Radweg - far left - in purple)

 
 
 

APPENDIX 2 - COSTS           (Back to the Top)
Money
A$1 =.81swiss francs/ 1.1 deutschmarks / 7.66 Aust Schillings / .56 Euros

COMPARATIVE COSTS (from Lonely Planet ….per person)

                  MEALS               LODGINGS
              Budget   Mid           Budget      Mid

Austria US 6-10 10 - 20         15 – 30       30 - 80

German Youth Hostels Neckar Valley 1993
eg Tubingen  17.6 EUROS
 

APPENDIX 3 - LINKS
(Back to the top)

Baden-Wurttenberg
http://www.germany-tourism.de/e/dest_states_bw_e.html

Subject:
        AW: thanks Georg
   Date:
        Tue, 19 Nov 2002 09:30:48 +0100
   From:
        "Schrofner" <g.schrofner@salzburgerland.com>
     To:
        "mike venamore" <mikven@powerup.com.au>

Dear Mike,

here are the distances (most of them you will find in the map, which is on the way to you)

Salzburg        40 km to
Lofer           60 km to
Kufstein        90 km to
Innsbruck       78 km to
Landeck 45 km to
Klösterle       57 km to
Feldkirch-Meiningen 41 km to
Bregenz

totally 411 km

Best regards
Georg Schrofner

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: mike venamore [mailto:mikven@powerup.com.au]
Gesendet: Dienstag, 19. November 2002 04:58
An: Schrofner
Betreff: thanks Georg
 

Hi again Georg. Could you give me an estimate of the distance from Salzburg to Bregenz. I haven't received those brochures you were going to send me....I guess there are still on their way.

All the best Georg,

Mike

Schrofner wrote:

> Hello Mike,
>
> you can order the cycle-guide by www.radtouren.at - cycle literature. We recommend you the the guides "Innradweg" and "Radatlas Vorarlberg". The guide for the new Mozart Radweg part Salzburg - Lofer - Kufstein will be published in May 2003.
> In advance I send you the brochure "Radtouren in Österreich" and a cycle map scale 1:500.000.
>
> You can cycle from Landeck to Klösterle, but it is most of the time a main road  with traffic and you have to climb from Landeck, 817 meters up to the Arlberg pass, 1793 Meter, totally elevation also nearly 1000 meters!
>
> Best regards
> Georg
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: mike venamore [mailto:mikven@powerup.com.au]
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 05. November 2002 23:35
> An: Schrofner
> Betreff: Re: AW: cycling Salzburg to Bodensee
>
> Hi there Georg and thanks for the reply. Where can I get maps of these radwegs? Is it possible you can send me whatever information you have?
>
> My address is
> 54 Grosvenor St.
> Balmoral,
> Brisbane,
> Australia Q4171
>
> Also can you tell me if it is possible to cycle between Landeck and Klosterle? Is there any problem with doing this?
>
> Thanks for your help Georg,
>
> Mike Venamore
> Brisbane
> Australia
>
> Schrofner wrote:
>
> > Hello Mike,
> >
> > it is right the cycle paths of Inn and Vorarlberg do not meet, therefore we recommend to join them by a short trip by train:
> >
> > Salzburg - Tauernradweg - Lofer - new Mozart-Radweg (will be opened in May 2003) - Kufstein - Innradweg - Landeck. From here take the train to Klösterle. And then start one´s more with the bike: Radweg Kostertal - Bludenz - Radweg Rheintal-Walgau - Bregenz/Lake Constance
> >
> > It will be a wonderful trip!
> >
> > Best regards!
> >
> > Georg Schrofner
> >
> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: mike venamore [mailto:mikven@powerup.com.au]
> > Gesendet: Sonntag, 3. November 2002 22:58
> > An: Info
> > Betreff: cycling Salzburg to Bodensee

Subject:
         AW: AW: cycling Salzburg to Bodensee
   Date:
         Thu, 7 Nov 2002 20:23:05 +0100
   From:
         "Schrofner" <g.schrofner@salzburgerland.com>
     To:
         "mike venamore" <mikven@powerup.com.au>
 

Hello Mike,

you can order the cycle-guide by www.radtouren.at - cycle literature. We recommend you the the guides "Innradweg" and "Radatlas Vorarlberg". The guide for the new Mozart Radweg part Salzburg - Lofer - Kufstein will be published in May 2003.
In advance I send you the brochure "Radtouren in Österreich" and a cycle map scale 1:500.000.

You can cycle from Landeck to Klösterle, but it is most of the time a main road  with traffic and you have to climb from Landeck, 817 meters up to the Arlberg pass, 1793 Meter, totally elevation also nearly 1000 meters!

Best regards
Georg

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: mike venamore [mailto:mikven@powerup.com.au]
Gesendet: Dienstag, 05. November 2002 23:35
An: Schrofner
Betreff: Re: AW: cycling Salzburg to Bodensee
 

Hi there Georg and thanks for the reply. Where can I get maps of these radwegs? Is it possible you can send me whatever information you have?

My address is
54 Grosvenor St.
Balmoral,
Brisbane,
Australia Q4171

Also can you tell me if it is possible to cycle between Landeck and Klosterle? Is there any problem with doing this?

Thanks for your help Georg,

Mike Venamore
Brisbane
Australia

Schrofner wrote:

> Hello Mike,
>
> it is right the cycle paths of Inn and Vorarlberg do not meet, therefore we recommend to join them by a short trip by train:
>
> Salzburg - Tauernradweg - Lofer - new Mozart-Radweg (will be opened in May 2003) - Kufstein - Innradweg - Landeck. From here take the train to Klösterle. And then start one´s more with the bike: Radweg Kostertal - Bludenz - Radweg Rheintal-Walgau - Bregenz/Lake Constance
>
> It will be a wonderful trip!
>
> Best regards!
>
> Georg Schrofner
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: mike venamore [mailto:mikven@powerup.com.au]
> Gesendet: Sonntag, 3. November 2002 22:58
> An: Info
> Betreff: cycling Salzburg to Bodensee
>
> Hi there and greetings from Australia. My wife and I are thinking
> cycling from Salzburg to Lake Constance in Switzerland. Do you know what
> radwegs would be the best to take? I have checked out the Inn Cycle and
> the Bodensee-Voralberg radwegs but the two don't meet. Do you know how
> best we could get from one to the other. If there are no radwegs what
> road access would you advise we take?
>
> Many thanks,
> Mike Venamore
> Brisbane
> Australia
 

Subject:
         AW: cycling Salzburg to Bodensee
   Date:
         Mon, 4 Nov 2002 18:06:31 +0100
   From:
         "Schrofner" <g.schrofner@salzburgerland.com>
     To:
         <mikven@powerup.com.au>
 
 
 

Hello Mike,

it is right the cycle paths of Inn and Vorarlberg do not meet, therefore we recommend to join them by a short trip by train:

Salzburg - Tauernradweg - Lofer - new Mozart-Radweg (will be opened in May 2003) - Kufstein - Innradweg - Landeck. From here take the train to Klösterle. And then start one´s more with the bike: Radweg Kostertal - Bludenz - Radweg Rheintal-Walgau - Bregenz/Lake Constance

It will be a wonderful trip!

Best regards!

Georg Schrofner
 

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: mike venamore [mailto:mikven@powerup.com.au]
Gesendet: Sonntag, 3. November 2002 22:58
An: Info
Betreff: cycling Salzburg to Bodensee
 

Hi there and greetings from Australia. My wife and I are thinking
cycling from Salzburg to Lake Constance in Switzerland. Do you know what
radwegs would be the best to take? I have checked out the Inn Cycle and
the Bodensee-Voralberg radwegs but the two don't meet. Do you know how
best we could get from one to the other. If there are no radwegs what
road access would you advise we take?

Many thanks,
Mike Venamore
Brisbane
Australia
 

Subject:
           Fahrradtour Bodensee (Lake Constance) to Villingen
      Date:
           Wed, 30 Oct 2002 19:31:56 +0100
      From:
           Karl Schuwerk <karl@radweg.net>
        To:
           mikven@powerup.com.au
 References:
           1
 
 

Hallo Mike,

please look at

http://www.amazon.de/exec/obidos/ASIN/3890215491/fahrradtourendon"

http://www.amazon.de/exec/obidos/ASIN/3890215513/fahrradtourendon"
 

These Maps 1:100.000.

Please have a  look at:
http://www.fahrrad-tour.de/Hohenzollern/HoheAach.htm

You have to bike from to the north end of Lake Constance  (Ludwigshafen)
to Tuttlingen ca. 41,0 km.
Follow  the bike-rial "Donauradweg" to Donaueschingen. Follow the
"Brigachtalradweg" to Villingen.
 

cgi@puretec.de schrieb:

>  vom 30.10.2002 um 16:36:32
> an Fahrrad-Tour-Team
>
> E-Mail:         mikven@powerup.com.au
>
> Name:           mike venamore
>
> -----------------------------------------------
> Kontakt:        per email
> -----------------------------------------------
> :
> Great pages (I think)...wish I
>
>  could read German. I am
>
> trying to work out if I can
>
> cycle from Lake Constance to
>
> Villigen and then down the
>
> Neckar...can you please
>
> advise? Also where can I get a map of the area?
>
> Many thanks,
>
> mike
>
> -----------------------------------------------
>
> Mit freundlichen Gruessen

--
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
 

Karl Schuwerk

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